Art Meets Fitness: How to Sculpt Your Body and Creativity!

Create Art Podcast Interview Trey hello, friend.

This is Timothy Keem O'Brien, your head instigator for Create Art Podcast, where I bring my over 30 years of experience in the arts and education world to help you tame your inner critic.

Create more than you consume.

So in today's episode, I'm going to be interviewing Trey de Fit Artist.

Now, I got to tell you that I've received a slew of interview requests to be on this show.

So if you want to be on the show, definitely shoot me an email and let me know why you want to be on the show.

And I'd be happy to get your message out to everyone that listens to this.

But Trey reached out to me through Pod Match and I'll talk more about Pod Match at the end of the podcast.

But let me tell you a little bit about Trey because this guy had me excited from Jump street.

Now, Trey is a fitness coach for artists, entertainers and creatives, as well as a music artist himself.

Now, he's the founder of Next World Fitness and creator of Fit Masterpiece Collabs, where he helps performers sustain energy, avoid burnout, and optimize their health to stay at the top of their game.

Get ready to learn how fitness fuels creativity.

And we're going to welcome Trey the Fit Artist to this show.

And you can find out all about Trey and his work if you go to his website.

It's nextworld fitness.com if you don't have a pen and paper handy, don't worry about it.

I've got it in the show notes for you.

Now, when Trey reached out to me, I have to give you a little bit of a backstory here.

I have in the past few months, I hired a personal trainer to help me with my fitness.

And a lot of times us artists, we don't think about our personal fitness that much.

But if you think about it, when you have that personal fitness, when you have that area in your life unlock, when it's ready and good to go, then you're going to have more energy to go ahead and do the things you want to do.

And you can avoid burnout, you can avoid health issues like I have, and you can just do better with your creativity.

So I'm going to get out of the way here and play for you.

Our interview that we just did.

Folks, I want to thank you all for joining us here on Create Art Podcast.

I have the privilege of having Trey the Fit artist on the show today.

Trey, how is it down where you're at, man?

It's all good.

Man is weather is crazy.

One minute is we just got through raining and then one minute is cold and the next minute is hot.

So it's crazy man.

You don't know what to wear out there.

I don't know if you seen the cat Williams stand up where he was saying you don't know what to wear.

He said he in rain boots and stuff like that and swim trunks and stuff like that.

Cuz you don't know what's going to go on that's like what the weather is here.

Yeah, we're having that here in Virginia right now.

We got.

We've got some heavy rains and winds today.

Last week we had eight inches of snow.

This coming week we're going to have another eight inches of snow.

We'll send some down your way if you don't mind.

Now I'm done with it.

Yeah, it don't really get too cold here so we ain't used to a lot of cold weather.

Don't really even snow here.

When we do get snow we get.

Most people get a shock or don't and then also too don't even know how to drive in this.

In.

In the.

In the snow and everything as well but.

But yeah, I don' if I could handle it.

They don't know how to drive up here in Virginia either.

We were talking earlier.

I'm originally from Chicago.

They can't drive on a sunny day here in Virginia.

So.

Okay, I'm gonna lose a bunch of Virginia listeners, but that's okay.

Trey, I'm very happy to have you on here for some personal reasons that we'll get into but you messaged me on Pod Match and you have a unique story here.

You're into art, you're a musician and you're a fitness guy.

So I got to start off with how do you connect.

Help me connect the dots with art and fitness.

How does that work together for you?

Okay.

I guess I would say more so if I can say the messaging around it and so forth.

I believe fitness is a art form in itself as we sculpting our body to a certain degree and also with the me being an artist as well is something I always done since the beginning, since I was younger and so forth.

And this is really something I'm going into doing now, starting my music artist career and so forth.

But blending them together and so forth.

It definitely helps me a lot for is the mental clarity and the discipline that it takes for both facets of those realms of world and being where you can be able to Produce your best self.

So like me being a fitness coach and trainer, me to be able to motivate people and help them out with their goals and so forth.

And also me on the other side being, let's say present and having the energy and stuff so forth, even the thought process to even crank out lyrics and putting it into pen and paper and everything and getting that out as well, putting them together and everything just helped me to crank out a lot and be the best version of myself on both field.

That's amazing, man.

That's amazing.

I.

We were talking before we hit record here.

I have a personal trainer.

I have one now for about four or five months.

And I'm of an age, I'm of.

An age of an age.

Okay.

I'm 52 and I've been an artist my whole life.

And I got to say I've got to echo what you're saying there is I haven't felt when I was 18, when I first got in the Air Force, I had a ton of energy and all that.

At 52, having twins and kids in the house and full time job, really the commute takes a lot out of you.

But when I started my training, I've gotten a ton of energy so that way I can do my art.

And is that what you're finding with maybe some of your clients?

Is that it's almost counterintuitive.

We work out, we work hard in the gym and then we have more energy.

How does that work?

Because I'm completely ignorant about it.

You're the expert.

Okay, so are you asking like how do you have more energy to do what you do when it's fitness?

It depends on no matter what you're doing in the morning, midday or evening when you work out and so forth, it releases the endorphins in you and everything to energize you, supercharge you in a sense.

And most people like when they do it in the daytime, especially with artists, entertainers and so forth, they kind of got to get up early and stuff like that and do got a long schedule ahead of them or a long day ahead of them.

They're putting fitness in the epicenter of that where they work out and so forth.

No matter if they doing like a 30 minute workout, it can be at home.

You don't got to be at the gym or something like that.

It doing that definitely wakes them up, wakes the body up, shocks the body and everything and energizes you.

And keep in mind eating with it, eating pretty decent with it as well.

Helps fuel your day and so forth.

Let's talk about the discipline that it takes.

Being an artist and then being a fitness coach, being a trainer.

Is there a lot of similarities that you're seeing with that?

Yes.

Now I want to like preface that I wasn't always starting into my artistry and so forth.

So I always.

There's been.

I've been a trainer way more than I've been an artist.

It's always been in the background of me wanting to do it, but I'm just not going out for it.

But yeah, it is some similarities where, like I said, the discipline part of it, where you.

When you looking at.

With fitness and so forth, getting it to be in a routine, eating a certain way and having.

Not necessarily saying having a schedule, but having a regimen that you're doing, that definitely applies to how you do it.

Do that at a certain level.

When you are making music and so forth, writing and everything.

So it's a process that you're doing.

It's a certain discipline to keep it going, to keep it cranking out and stuff like that and doing it at a high level as well.

When you making music and so forth or writing music, you want to set your set of time out to do it and say, okay, I'm gonna do it for this amount of time.

I know artists is like on the fly and on the go, but some of the stuff we gotta do, gotta have in a time frame or else everything gonna be crazy.

And then.

And again, let's say we on both sides or whether you.

You saying you're too busy to work out, or if you saying there's a lot going on, you can't write, then that makes it where you probably won't do it at all on everything.

So that make it a lot of yours and everything.

So if you're really serious and dedicated and commitment committed, it makes it all jail in and everything.

So in.

In order to be able to do both at a high level.

If that makes sense.

No, that absolutely makes sense.

Absolutely something that I'm reminded of by what you're saying.

There is a guy that I follow, his name is Seth Godin and he is a huge one that says that artists, people have writer's block or stuff like that.

But plumbers don't have plumber's block.

They've got plumber's crack, but they don't have plumber's block.

Okay.

And I like that, that discipline that you're talking about, that when we're working on our body and when we're working on our art because I used to be of the opinion that I gotta wait for inspiration to hit me before I do anything.

And for me, that was just being lazy.

Yeah.

And I know for when I go to the gym, there's days I don't want to go, I'm not inspired to go to the gym.

Right.

Look down on my belly and I'm like, okay, that should be enough to inspire me to get off my butt and go to the gym.

But you.

You would think.

Yeah, you would think.

But.

But I like the idea that you're having here of just showing up and showing up to the gym.

Now, there's some days, I will tell you, my trainer knows this too.

I show up to the gym, I get in the hot tub, I walk around the gym, and then I go home.

Because I'm like, I got to the gym.

That was my first thing.

I had the intention, and I got there.

But then the same thing with art is I get into my studio and I get playing my music.

Okay.

I get there now, sometimes something great is going to happen and I'll sell a million records.

I.

I'm kidding.

Hey, as long as you live in this, you still able to.

You know what I'm saying?

So don't sell yourself short.

Okay, you know what?

From your mouth to God's ears, we're gonna go ahead and make that happen.

Yes, sir.

When it now with the people that you're training, are you training a lot of artists right now or, or.

Or are you just starting that physically training artists at this point?

I have did a couple, but this is like a new niche.

I'm going down lane and so forth from what I was originally doing.

Most of the people I were working with were like saying avatar of saying like, men and women age 25 to 55 looking to lose a little weight, get, you know, body build a little bit, lose fat and so forth, Stuff like that.

Yeah.

Okay.

All right, sounds good.

Are you noticing?

So the.

And I'm going to use Hughes air quotes, the regular people versus us crazy artists, what's the different challenges?

Or are there any challenges that you're noticing that artists bring to bring to the gym versus a regular person?

Everybody busy to a degree, but with artists and entertainers, it is.

It is.

That's almost like a job itself, if that makes sense.

With a regular 9 to 5 most, it cuts off, you know what I'm saying?

You go in at 9 to 5, you cut work off.

But with artists and entertainers and so forth, it they making.

They producing the art.

But then at the same time, they gotta do other stuff.

Okay.

Now I gotta go do the interviews, I gotta do the background stuff that people don't see and stuff like that, so it don't really turns out for them.

And being a fitness coach, I can relate to that because that's the same the way I operate as well.

So those are the differences there.

They are super busy.

They pulled into.

In many different directions, and it's hard for them to basically get into a fitness routine and diet regimen and effectively getting there because, you know, they're constantly on the road, they doing shows and stuff like that on stage and all that.

So there's finding that.

That balance through it all or through all the chaos, I would say is one of their biggest challenges.

I gotcha.

Yeah, for sure.

For sure.

Like when we go see the.

The super bowl halftime show and you see all those artists out there and they're all super fit and they're dancing around and they're doing that for an hour, and I look at that and I'm like, oh, my God, that's a lot of work.

Funny you mentioned that, since with the super bowl, with Kendra Lamar doing it, he doesn't have a backtrack and so forth.

So he's doing this specifically on his own breath.

He's not using the track to fill in the words he not saying and so forth.

And also he heading out the cuss words and everything as well.

You got to have a sense of endurance and stamina to even do that, to be able to say the words and move like he was moving and so forth and everything.

It takes some kind of discipline or some type of fitness regimen to even do stuff like that.

That's for sure.

That is for definite.

Sure.

I know when I'm doing my music or when I'm doing my writing and then I go perform it out in public.

Before I was working out, it was taxing.

Okay.

And I was abusing my body and doing all the stupid things that as artists do.

We won't go into that because statute of limitations and all that kind of good stuff.

Oh, man.

Okay.

We ain't got to talk about it, but go ahead.

No, no, we're not going to talk about that today.

But as artists, we do abuse our bodies a lot.

And I definitely see the benefit that being one of the benefits is the endurance, the ability to.

Because all of all artists, doesn't matter what we do.

Dancer, painter, writer, musician, whatever art you're in, you're doing it with your body and if your body's out of whack, you're not going to be able to do it for that long or that well.

Most definitely.

What are some other benefits?

Working out with a, with a trainer such as yourself for artists, do you think?

I deliver mine via online.

So with artists, entertainers being constantly busy, wherever they go, I go.

I'm in your back pocket pretty much.

So you definitely getting somebody that's.

That knows the grind in a sense because like I said fitness world, being a fitness coach is not too much of a difference in how we move and how we work and so forth.

So I definitely know the grind and everything as well.

How to be able to crank out music and whatever your medium is, be able to do that at a high level.

I would say I'm able to help you out in that way.

Where a lot of people think that when you do fitness and so forth, you got to be.

It got to automatically be in the gym.

You got to spend hours and hours in the gym and so forth to really achieve your set goals.

So it's not really that I'm able to do where if you need the gym we I can tell you how to do that.

But also if.

If it's a little since let's say the person might want to lose weight, lose fat and so forth, doesn't want to keep maintain what they got or something like that, then it's workout that you can do it in the comfort of your own home.

If you're on on stage and the back backstage or however got workout where you can get in 10, 20 minutes and stuff like that.

A lot of folks don't realize that a 10 minute, 20 minute workout, your body again really benefit from that and so forth.

So getting that in and still it ain't taking a lot out your day or your time for is what, what whatever you got going on throughout that day.

And also having a diet along with that as well because artists lead, they have a very bad diet regimen and so forth.

Yeah.

So parties and constantly eating food, fast food on the road and stuff like this.

I can help them be able to implement ways that they can make the food beneficial to them rather than detrimental.

Excellent.

Excellent.

How is your.

How have you evolved in your approach from when you first started training people to today?

And then I'm also going to ask you on the artist side, how has your music evolved from when you started doing music until today?

Okay.

Starting out with everything you don't know what you don't know.

I was When I first got out there, I wanted to work at a gym.

And at time I'm here in Mississippi, in Jackson, Mississippi.

So at the time when I started in 2013, it wasn't a lot of gyms around here.

Still ain't a lot now, but it's more than it was back then.

And I was pushed out there to start on my own and everything.

They didn't really know what you would know, so I didn't really know my style.

I didn't know the whole structure for what client I want to work with and so forth.

And getting them there.

The structure.

I know how to get them there, but to structure it out and getting them there, I would say that was.

That's how I was then, but now I've been doing it almost 12 years now.

Now I'm more confident and stuff like that.

I got a certain style, way I do, type of system I train my clients in and a structure that I have them go through and everything.

So I know this particular client, I need to get him here, him there, or she needs this.

I can get her in this way using this system.

So in every client that I take on, I don't take them on as a cookie cutter approach, is more like where I meet them where they are and meet them where they are and then get them to the point where they want to be and so forth.

Good deal.

Good deal.

And I agree with you, it is definitely a.

You.

You can't do a cookie cutter approach.

Because I know with my trainer, he's constantly looking at where I'm at physically met medically and all that kind of stuff and adjusting as needed.

Our first session, I'm a little bit embarrassed to admit this, but.

So our first session, I just started some new medication and I didn't tell him about it.

I didn't think to tell him about it.

And we got 15 minutes into it.

We were just doing some stretches with one of those big balls, those balance balls and all that kind of stuff, and we're good to go.

And then we go downstairs and we go right to a couple of machines.

And I did one set, one set.

Not hard weight at all.

Barely any weight at all.

And I passed out.

I hit the deck.

That's our biggest nightmare right there.

But go ahead.

But with that communication that we have that we've developed now, and if I got to go do a blood test, I don't work out with him that day.

I let him know, hey, listen, I had to give blood here and.

And all that kind of good Stuff.

And.

And the great thing is my condition.

I have hypertension, high blood pressure, which is under control right now, which is good.

And I also have multiple sclerosis.

Okay.

Which you look at me and you're like, you've got ms, Tim.

It's a weird thing.

I'm battling fatigue all the time.

But he has gone and done some research into the best ways to train me.

So that first day passed out.

Haven't passed out yet.

And we start every session with today.

We are not going to pass out.

Okay.

We're not going to pass out.

So I can definitely assure everybody that if you get a good trainer like Trey here, they're going.

They're going to be.

They need to know about your body.

They need to know what's going on.

So you can't do a cookie cutter kind of thing.

And I'm glad you said that.

Yes.

So basically what you're saying is communication, basically, that goes a long way because I don't know what I don't know on everything.

So in order, I always tell my clients, for me to help you, you got to communicate with me on everything.

Because I don't know what's going on fully.

Whatever you thinking and that be the, like, the biggest part or barrier that I had to get with clients is the communication part.

Because some of them think, okay, like, I can be on now I can ask you, like, how you feeling and did you do this or what do you think about this and stuff like that.

That's just me guessing and grasping the.

Just trying to see if something.

Something.

If something tries to come about that I need to help you with, but I don't.

But you know what you need help with.

So when I come.

When they come to me and everything, I have a question or it's something I like, well, or they did something that they probably shouldn't been doing and everything.

I said you could have did it this way.

I said, you just asked me.

Oh, I didn't think I needed to ask you.

I thought I was doing like, nah, that's what I'm here for.

You know what I'm saying?

So even if you don't know if it's a.

If you don't think it's something big or small or you don't really know, just ask anyway.

Whether you think it is dumb or whatever, just ask me.

In a way we can get through it.

But communication definitely is key on everything.

And I also work with a client that has multiple sclerosis as well, so I understand what you're saying with the getting tired and so forth.

And when we was doing it, I was doing it virtually with her.

When we was doing it, we was sometimes do get tired during the session.

It was like a third, a 30 minute session.

So I always constantly be asking, how you feeling?

You all right?

We good?

Yeah, I'm good.

And she'll let me know too.

I'm getting a little tired.

Okay.

Okay.

Then we.

The workout I had planned, I'm gonna cut it down for you so we can go and get through with it and stuff like that.

So the communication goes a long way.

So you don't tell me anything.

I.

I can't train you or coach.

You effectively because if you don't tell Trey everything, you're gonna end up like Tim, obviously on the ground and it's going to be silly.

So we don't want that to happen to anybody.

Yes, sir.

Yes, sir.

I mean, so now on the flip side, let's talk about music.

Okay.

Let's talk about your art.

How has that evolved over the years?

All right, so I would say it come up, speed it up.

I'll go back in time, but I'm gonna speed it up to current.

But I started knowing, noticing my.

My skills are being entertained.

My genre is hip hop, by the way.

And I started noticing my writing skills and stuff like that very own early in my years.

I.

I wanted to rap and stuff like that back then, but I didn't really go through with it.

And I was.

I always wrote poems and stuff like that and little literary works and stuff like that.

I love stuff like that.

So English was one of my favorite subjects growing up, but I didn't ever go through it until like I always wanted to do it.

It's always been the back of my mind and it didn't never leave me.

That kind of stuck with me.

I was even trying to see how I can interject it with what I'm doing now.

Hence why I'm doing it, what I'm doing now.

But.

But back then when I was writing to like where I was writing, but I wouldn't write into a beat, so I was already writing in a poem.

I hear Kendra Lamar was like a poet, poet first and stuff like that.

So I think you hear some of his early work.

When I heard it, I was like, ah, yeah, that's it.

Do sound like that.

Okay, so if you ain't writing to a beat and everything like that, you just put it to a beat.

You can tell it ain't gelling or mission and stuff like that.

So when I was writing, that's how I was writing.

So if you would see my early works, before I was doing it, how I wrote everything was in that poem type of.

It was no car trains or anything like that or whatever.

Breaking in the.

In fours and stuff like that.

But now when I started getting into it, and this definitely happened when it was like in.

During the COVID time.

I think that's when we started really like discovering what we can do and all that stuff like this.

During that I was like researching like how to write rhymes and all that stuff like that.

And they were telling me, telling you, like, you gotta count the bars in the song when the beat going on the twos and the fours.

And when I did that, they let you know how many.

Like how long that verse is, when to start the chords and when it.

Or the hook or Anyway, even if it's a bridge in there and so forth.

When I found that structure, when I started writing in that.

Now that's when I started breaking it up into fours and everything like that.

And then you look at some of the stuff that I written before, I even knew that in this time here, this.

This current time, it's a lot different.

If I try to rap what I did before, I knew the new structure and stuff like that, it don't even sound the same.

They sound completely different and everything.

So I had to see myself like those early works, I like, I might have to go in there and rewrite it so I can.

With the current structure that I know how to do now and everything to make it more jail and stuff like that.

Because at the time my ear is hearing it, I heard it.

To me, it sounded like it was gonna be.

And it was at the time.

But now with the new ears is a whole lot different and so forth.

So I would say in.

In that.

In that manner, I evolved there.

So writing to an actual beat versus how we used to write back then and everything.

And also to finding beats and everything, getting it out so forth.

When at the time it took me not.

Not to say time is of course, if you wrote something in 30 minutes versus a couple hours.

But the whole process of finding a beat and writing, I would say that has gotten a lot better than.

Excuse me over the time and so forth and everything.

So those.

Those few things that I have noticed, you know, getting used to my voice, how I'm gonna sound and stuff like that versus what I was doing when I was recording myself and everything earlier.

All those I would say have changed over time.

Awesome.

And taking care of your voice, too.

Yes.

That's huge.

Because, you know, if you're sitting there, you know, yelling your head off or drinking a little too much of something or smoking too much of something, which is a thing that I've had to give up myself.

It can really.

It's an instrument, and they can really.

You got to really take great care of it.

See?

All boys back to fitness.

Yep.

It does.

It does.

Yeah.

So it's better not.

It's better to put that.

That vape down or that.

That cigarette down and go to the gym and work it out.

I need to learn that lesson.

I need to learn it.

It's all good.

I mean, I know Busta Rhymes.

He was talking about something like that he didn't understand with Mariah Carey, and she was supposed to do, like, a song with him or something like that.

And she was talking about.

She was resting her voice and he thought she was playing him.

And until.

I don't see how, with all that streaming and all that stuff he was doing back in the day and stuff like that, and he.

Then he went one.

He was.

When he.

Once his voice went out, he understood what she was doing and everything like this.

Think that's a lot.

What.

When it comes to fitness with artists and entertainer, they don't understand that to do their job at a high level, it comes with them, their body and them being in shape and eating a certain way and living a certain way to even do that at a high level.

I think they conflate the two and everything.

They think it's just one thing.

I can't do this without the other, or I can't do this because of the other and so forth.

If I'm gonna be doing fitness, I don't need to be doing making music.

But they can definitely live and coincide with each.

Not can they need to be.

You know what I'm saying as well.

Sure.

Now, if you could collaborate with an artist or an athlete that was really embodying, you know, this whole getting your physical fitness and your inspiration, your art.

Artistic fitness.

Oh, there we go.

I like it.

Artistic fitness.

There we go.

I'm gonna.

I'm gonna patent that.

And I'll give you 10%, not a problem.

Okay, I'll give you 20% because you're stronger than I am.

Come on now.

Come on now.

But is there somebody that if I wave my magic wand and go, all right, you're gonna work with?

Trey, who's that person gonna be?

Or who would you like it to be of musically either way, musically or athlete wise.

Oh, my inspiration that got me into wanting to do it.

I would say Ludacris on everything.

Then I.

As I see him now on everything.

Like I said that that would be a dream interview for my podcast.

But as I see him doing that, he's.

He working out and all that stuff a lot in the.

In that space.

So I would say that would be a twofer right there because he.

He actually works out and he actually makes music too as well.

The Rock and everything like that.

Because I consider myself a bodybuilder and everything like that.

Me and him around the same height, about around the same weight and stuff like that.

So that would be an interesting person to collab with and everything in that.

In that way as well and everything.

So I would say those two people that right now, if I had to say, come to mind those two people right there.

Awesome.

Ludicrous.

And rock.

Yeah, The Rock.

Yes, sir, the Rock.

Trey is starting a new podcast here.

So I'm just.

If you guys want to get in on the ground floor and hook it up, we're going to promote it here at Create Art Podcast.

But Trey, can you talk a little bit about the podcast that you're building right now, as literally as we're speaking?

Yes, sir.

Name of the podcast is called Scope and Create, and it's basically where we'll be discussing artists and entertainers and other creators journeys and they journey that process, mindsets and so forth.

And then also how they are integrating fitness into all that as well and to shine it on and off stage.

And also too, I will also be talking with health and wellness professionals as well in ways that they can help artists and entertainers in that same facet, whether it be mental health, physical health and so forth, and the nutrition and stuff like that.

So it definitely where it putting both together, blending artistry with fitness and in that mindset.

So it'd be where we talking fitness a little bit, but it's more so about their artistry, they journey and stuff like that as well, and getting to know them personally and everything what they got going on.

That's exciting to hear.

So folks, you heard it here first.

It's coming out.

We're gonna get ludicrous on that one.

We're gonna get the Rock.

I would even say LL Cool J.

I mean, it's funny you said that.

Like, I was thinking of all the people that I could work with for the show.

Those would be the dream interviews and stuff like that.

So yes, LA Cool J was one and it's funny, like I said.

Again, funny you said that.

I was already thinking that.

But my.

So when I really started, like, working out, I was working out with my dad for the first one.

Like, when I was like, 14, 15.

You used to work out with him a lot.

And got my first gym.

Giving you a little story, but he got my first gym set when I was, like, 15 and so forth.

And then later on before, like, a little bit after he got diagnosed with cancer and so forth, he got us in the gym membership, and it started from there and everything.

So he came.

He gave me the tools to start with, and then I just found my own lane, found out what my body responded to, and then my own routine versus what he gave me.

But to say that is.

I had got this LL Cool J book.

LL Cool J had a workout book in early 2000, and that was one of the workout books that I had worked out to and almost hurt my back, too, trying to not really know him fully how to work out back then.

This was before I became a fitness coach and stuff like that.

But I had used.

Doing what he was saying in that.

In.

In that workout book.

I had.

I had hurt my back.

Not to say that's on him, but I just was doing too much and didn't understand it fully.

But that was one of my first introductions to, like, in the gym.

Let me get this LL Cool J book.

So, yeah, that would be a good interview, I would think.

And all the people that I'm thinking about.

Kevin Hart is another one.

He working out pretty good, but he has his own finger training.

But just to interview him as well and everything like that.

So those people in a space that would definitely embody that mission and that.

That vision that I see for blending artistry and fitness together.

But he doesn't have Trey yet.

That's the thing.

He doesn't have Trey yet.

I've got Trey on my show.

He needs to be on.

He needs to be on your show, Trey.

All right.

Good deal.

Trey, it's been a privilege to have you on the show here.

Thank you so much for sharing your artistry with us, your expertise with fitness with us and everyone.

You're an artist.

You need to keep your art fitness and your body fitness.

So we're going to put that on the T shirt, dude.

We're going to make millions from that.

I'm feeling it.

Awesome.

Trey, thank you again so much.

Thank you for having me, man.

All right, again, I want to thank Trey for a wonderful conversation that we have.

He inspired me to redouble my efforts in my physical fitness to help with my artistry.

I hope he's done the same for you.

You can definitely reach out to him.

He's got a website, Next World Fitness.com.

check it out for yourself.

And maybe you hire Trey on as a personal trainer.

Just let him know that I sent you over there.

Okay?

I don't get anything special from it.

I just get the knowledge that you are taking care of yourself.

And like, I always end these episodes.

You know, do some art for somebody you love yourself.

Get your health in line for somebody you love yourself.

Okay, that's the episode here for you.

I want to mention a few things here as I leave.

One of the ways I get great guests is through a service called PodMatch.

I have my affiliate link in the show note there.

And sometimes I do get compensation for having guests from Pod Match on this show.

But I want to tell you that I wouldn't bring these guests on the show if I didn't think they have something to share with my audience.

So definitely, if you're out there and you're an artist and thinking, hey, I want to get on podcast, give Pod Match a look, See?

And if you're a podcaster, Definitely check out PodMatch to get great guests like I got with Trey.

So check it out for yourself.

The next thing I want to talk about, and this is mainly for the podcaster that listens to the show.

But if you want an easy way to share your show, check out Podcast Beacon.

Again, I have my affiliate link in the show.

I do get a little bit of compensation if you use it.

If you don't want to go that route, just go to Podcast Beacon and check it out for yourself.

What it is you get.

A little wearable wristwatch, doesn't have a clock on it, but what people can do is they can, instead of handing them a business card or something like that, they can put their phone over your wristband and it'll take their phone right to your website.

So give that a try for yourself.

It's an easy way to share your podcast, and my good buddy Matthew Passey runs it, so I know it's being run correctly.

Last thing I want to talk about is I do have a business that I just started up this year in 2025.

Go figure, right?

It's called TKB Podcast Studio.

And what I do there is I help you start your podcast.

So if you've been thinking about starting a podcast, definitely go to my website, tkb podcast studio.com reach out to me.

I want to help you do exactly what I do because let me tell you, podcasting is a lot of fun and with at TKB Podcast Studio we lead through all that noise with quiet professionalism.

All right, that's all I have for you here today.

I want to thank again Trey the Fit Artist for joining me on today's show.

I know you got something out of it.

Feel free to share it with a friend.

It costs you nothing to do that.

And if you'd like to be on the show, email me.

Timothy createartpodcast.com I'd love to share your story with everyone else that listens to this podcast.

Now go out there, tame your inner critic.

Create more than you consume.

Go hit the gym for even 15 minutes.

Go hit the gym, do something good for yourself and then go create some art for somebody you love.

Yourself.

I'll talk to you next time.

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